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and congressman chris van hollen. ron bonjean for. former aide to house speaker dennis hastert. has grover norquist lost his will? >> speaker boehner said revenues would be on the table as well as spending cuts and entitlement reform but we would not raise tax rates. i have seen nothing different than what these senators have said in the last day or so than what speaker boehner has said. the key here is the devil is in the details. once we see some sort of fine print in the next couple weeks, we'll know, you know, we'll know whether our legislators stand. one interesting thing here. i just want to add, we keep talking about tax reform but we have not really had a big conversation in the media about entitlement reform. medicare is exploding. billions of dollars, and we have millions of people are counting on it, will be retiring. baby boomers are retiring will go larger and larger. yet we have not talked about that yet. while we're talking about grover norquist versus these members i think the devil will be in the details. we'll have to talk about a broader conversation between tax revenue
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